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  WT Ruining Members' Futures

  by HiddlesWife in

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  what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.

  this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.

  she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.

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  LongHairGal

  I’m sorry for her and I am sure there are many Witnesses in the same predicament. She did ALL that work and knocked herself out for a handful of wishes.

  Exactly! This was her investment. She was happy in what she was doing! Paradise earth was her return for her investment. We all wasted years and got nothing in return.

  HiddlesWife

  Now, throughout the course of time--because this all occurred since the later 1980s--she became an RP plus got involved in other VOLUNTARY Borg activities [Need-Greater F.S., Unassigned Territories, various Kingdom Hall Constructions, CAH Tour Guiding, cooking food for various Pioneer Schools, getting parts on her cong's service meetings, CAs and twice in RC dramas, to name A LOT!]. She was happy for a long while (her popularity was skyrocketing to a certain degree as well).

  
  
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  DECEMBER 2, 2022
  GLOBAL NEWS

  2022 Governing Body Update #8

  
  

  So, Tony...Just go away. It's not about the money...or is it? Let's see who wins this fight!

  
  
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  https://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/2020-04-24-31#KAPITTEL_2
  

  § 6.Basis for refusing grants

  If a faith or belief community, or individuals acting on behalf of society, perpetrating violence or coercion, making threats, violating children's rights, violates statutory discrimination bans or otherwise seriously violates the rights and freedoms of others, society can be denied grants or grants can be curtailed. Grants may also be denied or shortened if the community encourages or grants support for violations mentioned in this paragraph.

  

  '' Brothers and sisters, let me be clear and tell the truth for once. Norway refuses to give us $1.6 million dollars, not because of religious discrimination against the Jehovah's Witnesses, but because it states in their documents that ''violating children's rights'' is one of many reasons why they refuse to give us grant money. Just think about it! We baptize 10 year old's and own them the rest of their lives. The Society refuse to give these children ''human rights'' after the are disfellowshipped or disassociate. They have no recourse, but to come back to Jehovah. We have the freedom to take away children's rights. The Norwegian Government has no authority to take away our religious rights, nor refuse to give the Society $1.6 million dollars."
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  https://www.nrk.no/norge/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstotte-for-2021-1.15830483
  

  NOK 16 million

  According to an overview from the Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, 12,686 grant-counting members were registered in Jehovah's Witnesses in 2021. According to the State Manager, they will now miss NOK 16 million in support.

  • The Jehovah’s Witnesses in Norway According to the Norwegian government’s Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, in 2021, there were 12,686 registered Jehovah’s Witnesses in the country. That number meant taxpayers were on the hook to give the Witnesses more than NOK 16 million (roughly $1,778,793 in U.S. dollars) in support.
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/norway-will-no-longer-fund-the-jehovahs-witnesses/
  

  In a move that’s both long overdue and shocking, the Norwegian government said it would no longer provide funding to the Jehovah’s Witnesses because of the religious sect’s cult-like practices.

  Norway’s odd relationship with religion

  Norway, which has a national Church but no longer has a national religion, is one of those countries where religion is literally supported by taxpayers; the more members you have, the more money your preferred religious (or Humanist) organization receives. Any “religious” group with 50 registered members are allowed to apply for state subsidies, and more than 800 groups receive that kind of funding.

  The law is very open regarding the kinds of religious or non-religious groups that can receive that money. However there are some lines in the sand:

  If a religious or philosophical community, or individuals acting on behalf of the community, commits violence or coercion, makes threats, violates children’s rights, violates statutory discrimination prohibitions or in other ways seriously violates the rights and freedoms of others, society may be denied grants or grants may be suspended. Grants may also be refused or reduced if society encourages or provides support for violations mentioned in this section.

  Religious or philosophical communities that accept grants from states that do not respect the right to freedom of religion or belief may be denied grants.

  That makes sense. A group that endorses violence shouldn’t get taxpayer money, nor should any group hurting children or violating human rights. Sure, there are atheists who might argue that any form of religious indoctrination is child abuse, but these rules are theoretically limited to things that are irrefutable and not up for debate.

  More specifically, groups that receive those subsidies can’t force people to remain members. They can’t ban interactions with non-members. They can’t make children pledge a lifelong commitment to them. If they cross those boundaries, then their groups might lose that government funding.
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  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's denial of financial aid

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5z-pnao3e?utm_source=share-btn.

  08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.

  jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.

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  https://direkte.vg.no/nyhetsdognet/news/jehovas-vitner-nektes-statsstoette.5Z-PnaO3E?utm_source=share-btn

  08:20 27.1.Kristoffer Solberg

  Jehovah's Witnesses Denied State Aid

  The faith community of Jehovah's Witnesses denied state aid for 2021 because of its exclusionary practices, the State Manager in Oslo and Viken has decided.

  In a message on their web pages the State Manager writes that they have found several violations of the religious community law of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  – After receiving notifications from former members regarding the exclusion and omission of members, the Ministry of Children and Family Affairs has asked the State Manager in Oslo and Viken to review Jehovah's Witnesses' own statements and publications. In this review, the State Manager has revealed several violations of the religious community law, according to this Our Country.

  The exclusion practice means that members are denied contact with registered members. This is what the State Manager violates the right to free cancellation and section 2 of the Religious Law.

  – The faith community also opens to exclude baptized minors. This means that children can be excluded if they break the rules of religious community. We believe this is negative social control and violates children's rights, writes the State Manager.

  – We have considered the offenses as systematic and intentional, and have therefore chosen to refuse grants, writes the State Manager. (NTB)

  
  

  https://twitter.com/i/status/1598735672365371392
  

  
  

  
  Anthony Morris responds to Norway's intention to remove the JWs as a recognized religion. ( It's all about the money folks! )
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  Did it ever become unbearable to attend another Kingdom Hall meeting?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  it's becoming unbearable for me to attend another meeting.

  i dread coming to the weekly sunday public talk and watchtower study.

  the talks are ''repeats'' of a ''repeat.

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  The worst part for me was the half wits that always needed to hear themselves talk. Pointless comment after pointless comment. Just the pure narcissism of it was the worst part for me.

  https://youtu.be/KeidZmxHLiY
  
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  Did it ever become unbearable to attend another Kingdom Hall meeting?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's becoming unbearable for me to attend another meeting.

  i dread coming to the weekly sunday public talk and watchtower study.

  the talks are ''repeats'' of a ''repeat.

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  It's becoming unbearable for me to attend another meeting. I dread coming to the weekly Sunday Public Talk and Watchtower Study. The talks are ''repeats'' of a ''repeat.'' The Watchtower Study is just ''parroted answers.''

  I no longer sing and comment at the meeting. I bring a New Yorker magazine and put it under the Watchtower magazine to read, so I can pass the boredom. The articles are Bible based, but at the end of every article, it's always about taking directions from the Governing Body Organization.

  I walk in one minute before the start of the meeting and leave minutes after the meeting ends. For sure, I leave when they make field service arrangements. Haven't been in field service in years.

  I can no longer tolerate the meetings physically and mentally. I'm not true to myself. I make up my mind to leave and become in their words, ''inactive."

  It will hurt my whole family ( mom, brother, aunts, uncles, cousins, friends) if I stop attending. Who knows how they will react and treat me?

  Now, after years of not attending meetings, the elders gave up trying to get me back to the meetings, and my family somehow have left me alone, and haven't bothered asking me any questions to when I'll come back.

  I'm finally at peace with myself!
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  Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

  one that comes to mind is.

  1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Have Their Own Bible?

  
  

  Jehovah’s Witnesses have used many different translations in their study of the Bible. In languages where it is available, though, we especially appreciate the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures for its use of God’s name, for its accuracy, and for its clarity.

  • Use of God’s name. Some Bible publishers have failed to give credit where credit is due. For example, one Bible translation lists the names of over 70 people who in some way contributed to its production. Yet, this same Bible omits the name of the Author​—Jehovah God​—altogether!

    In contrast, the New World Translation restores the divine name in the thousands of places where it existed in the original text, while the committee that produced the translation remains anonymous.

  • Accuracy. Not all translations accurately convey the Bible’s original message. One translation, for instance, renders Matthew 7:​13 in this way: “Go in through the narrow gate, because the gate to hell is wide and the road that leads to it is easy.” However, the original text used the term “destruction,” not “hell.” Perhaps the translators inserted the word “hell” because they believed that the wicked would be tormented forever in hellfire. But that idea is not supported by the Bible. Hence, the New World Translation reads accurately: “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction.”

  • Clarity. A good translation should be not only accurate but also clear, easy to understand. Consider an example. At Romans 12:11, the Christian apostle Paul used an expression that literally means “to the spirit boiling.” Since that expression makes little sense in modern English, the New World Translation renders the verse in a way that is easier to understand. It says that Christians should be “aglow with the spirit.”

  In addition to its use of God’s name, accuracy, and clarity, the New World Translation has another distinction: It is distributed without charge. As a result, millions are able to read the Bible in their mother tongue​—even those who otherwise could not afford to own a Bible.
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  Nephilim...Only desired females

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. bible

  bible questions answered.

  who were the nephilim?.

  the bible account says that “the sons of the true god began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful.” (genesis 6:2) those ‘sons of god’ were actually spirit creatures who rebelled against god when they “forsook their own proper dwelling place” in heaven, materialized human bodies, and “began taking as wives all whom they chose.”​—jude 6; genesis 6:2.. the hybrids born from this unnatural union were no ordinary children.

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  International Standard Version
  some divine beings noticed how attractive human women were, so they took wives for themselves from a selection that pleased them.

  https://stevenmcollins.com/who-the-nephilim-were-and-werent/

  With that introduction, let’s evaluate the theory that the nephilim are the offspring of fallen angels and human females. The very concept goes utterly against the Genesis 1 Divine Law that all creatures must reproduce via male-female unions within the same Genesis “kind.” Man-kind and angel-kind are not of the same Genesis “kind;” therefore, they cannot reproduce via any kind of sexual union. Also, Jesus taught that angels do not marry at all in the heavenly realm (Matthew 22:30), nor is there the slightest biblical evidence that they can reproduce baby angels. When a portion of the angels followed Lucifer and rebelled vs. God and were hurled back to earth (Isaiah 14:13-14, Luke 10:18, Jude 6), it is impossible that the fallen angels would suddenly gain a new power (to reproduce with human females) that they did not have prior to their fall and dis-empowerment. No angel (righteous or fallen) has any DNA or any human sperm in their bodies to fertilize an egg, so the entire idea of angelic-human reproductive unions is a non-starter. It can “happen” in Greek mythology or in science fiction, but not in the real world.